Greg interviews Nathan Barry, founder of ConvertKit, which makes email, automation, and monetization tools for creators.  They talk about how to be interesting online, and different ways to monetize online content.  ►►Subscribe to Greg's weekly newsletter for insights on community,  creators and commerce. You'll also find out when new and exclusive  episodes come out from Where it Happens. And it's totally free.    https://latecheckoutstudio.ck.page/  FIND ME ON SOCIAL:  Twitter: https://twitter.com/gregisenberg  Instagram: https://instagram.com/gregisenberg/  TikTok: https://tiktok.com/@gregisenberga    LINKS FOR THIS EPISODE:  Production Team:  https://PodFlow.comNathan Baryhttps://twitter.com/nathanbarryhttps://ConvertKit.comhttp://nathanbarry.com  SHOW NOTES:  00:45 How to be interesting online02:30 Combining education and entertainment04:00 Storytelling for mundane stories06:00 Improving comedy/storytelling skills15:00 Video content spreads well17:15 Studying comedy19:30 Blending journeys and storytelling21:45 Hiring out comedians24:15 Learning monetization skills27:00 Considering scalable business models29:15 Running companies long-term31:15 Building "skyscraper" products34:00 Blending agencies and software