#235: In the mid-2000s, Werner Vogels introduced the idea of "you build it, you run it". This concept suggested that the same team responsible for building a product should also be responsible for running and maintaining it. However, despite the initial enthusiasm, we have yet to see this phrase truly materialize in practice. The industry has faced challenges in fully realizing the "build it, run it" philosophy. In this episode, we speak with Kaspar von Grünberg, founder & CEO at Humanitec, about why "shifting left" to the developers really isn't all it's cracked up to be and how instead cleaner abstractions can bridge the gap in understanding between non-technical managers and the developers in the trenches.   Kaspar's contact information: Twitter: https://twitter.com/kaspar_official LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kvgruenberg/   YouTube channel: https://youtube.com/devopsparadox   Books and Courses:  Catalog, Patterns, And Blueprints https://www.devopstoolkitseries.com/posts/catalog/   Review the podcast on Apple Podcasts: https://www.devopsparadox.com/review-podcast/   Slack: https://www.devopsparadox.com/slack/   Connect with us at: https://www.devopsparadox.com/contact/