#169: With the development trend toward cloud services, developers need to build and deploy applications in this new paradigm. However, it may be difficult to determine what is possible and what is not, because building on a cloud service can lead to unforeseen difficulties that require a more complex solution.   In this episode, we speak with Ala and Aaron from Klotho about how complexity cannot be avoided as well as how operations teams are on the rise.   Ala’s contact information: Twitter: https://twitter.com/alashiban LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alashiban/   Aaron’s contact information: Twitter: https://twitter.com/aarontorres LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/torresaaron/   YouTube channel: https://youtube.com/devopsparadox/   Books and Courses: Catalog, Patterns, And Blueprints https://www.devopstoolkitseries.com/posts/catalog/   Review the podcast on Apple Podcasts: https://www.devopsparadox.com/review-podcast/   Slack: https://www.devopsparadox.com/slack/   Connect with us at: https://www.devopsparadox.com/contact/