#238: You might just now be reaching the point of containerizing your workloads and running them in Kubernetes. However, how do you go about accessing those workloads? You might have started with an ingress, because other options seemed like they were too complex. However, you've now crossed the point where you need that complexity. That's where service mesh can help you out. On this episode, we speak with Marino Wijay, Principal Developer Advocate at solo.io, about how service mesh has evolved over time, the challenges of adopting certain models, and the advantages of open-source solutions. We also talk about the differences between sidecar and sidecar-less models, and the circumstances in which either might be appropriate.   Marino's contact information: Twitter: https://twitter.com/virtualized6ix LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mwijay/   YouTube channel: https://youtube.com/devopsparadox   Books and Courses: Catalog, Patterns, And Blueprints https://www.devopstoolkitseries.com/posts/catalog/   Review the podcast on Apple Podcasts: https://www.devopsparadox.com/review-podcast/   Slack: https://www.devopsparadox.com/slack/   Connect with us at: https://www.devopsparadox.com/contact/