Show: 388Description: Brian talks with Eric Rudder (@ericrudder; Co-Founder and Executive Chairman @PulumiCorp) about the evolving tools and supply-chain for both developers and operations in a cloud-native world. Show Sponsor Links:Datadog Homepage - Modern Monitoring and AnalyticsTry Datadog yourself by starting a free, 14-day trial today. Listeners of this podcast will also receive a free Datadog T-shirtCloud News of the WeekLyft announces IPO plans and explains AWS spending (including a big contract with AWS)https://www.businessinsider.com/lyft-ipo-amazon-web-services-2019-3A Reddit discussion on AWS limitshttps://www.reddit.com/r/aws/comments/aun29l/a_new_candidate_for_the_list_of_stupidest_aws/Wikibon - Hybrid Cloud Taxonomy https://wikibon.com/hybrid-cloud-taxonomy/ServerlessConf 2019 - New York (October 7-9)https://nyc2019.serverlessconf.io/Show Interview Links:Pulumi - https://www.pulumi.comShow Notes:Topic 1 - Welcome to the show. Tell us a little bit about your background prior to Pulumi, and your motivation for creating Pulumi. Topic 2 - Pulumi’s stated goal is “Create, deploy, and manage modern cloud apps and infrastructure”. Break that down for us, as it cuts across a lot of different job functions and (currently) different tooling being used today. Topic 3 -  Between serverless and containers, it’s been pretty well acknowledged that the developer experience has a long way to go. Lots of burden put on the developer to understand the underlying systems. How does Pulumi attempt to simply or standardize around this challenge? Topic 4 - You obviously have a bunch of experience with developer communities from your days at Microsoft. Getting developers to standardize on things in mass is not a simple task. What are some of the ways to create movement to newer tools or technologies? Topic 5 - What are some of your expectations about how much of the software supply-chain, from writing code to testing/securing code to deploying will have to get disrupted with new cloud-native applications (containers, serverless, etc.) and how much do you feel like is solved enough to leave in place? Feedback?Email: show at thecloudcast dot netTwitter: @thecloudcastnet and @ServerlessCast