Shobita and Jack reflect on the US election and the future of conservatism and exciting vaccine news, and speak with philosopher and STS forefather Langdon Winner about the politics of technology today. Winner recently released a new edition of his groundbreaking book, The Whale and the Reactor: A Search for Limits in an Age of High Technology.- Langdon Winner (2020). The Whale and the Reactor: A Search for Limits in an Age of High Technology. University of Chicago Press.- Langdon Winner (2020). "The virus is a catalyst, society itself the disease."- Langdon Winner (2020). The Democratic Shaping of Technology: Its Rise, Fall, and Possible Rebirth.- Alfred Nordmann and Langdon Winner (2020). "Interview with Langdon Winner: Autonomous Technology: Then and Still Now."- Shoshana Zuboff (2019). The Age of Surveillance Capitalism: The Fight for a Human Future at the New Frontier of Power. Public Affairs.- Langdon Winner (2017) The Cult of Innovation: Its Colorful Myths and Rituals.- Langdon Winner (2010). "The Odyssey of Captain Beefheart: Rolling Stone’s 1970 Cover Story." Rolling Stone.- Tim Wu (2010). The Master Switch: The Rise and Fall of Information Empires. Oxford University Press.Transcript available at thereceivedwisdom.org