Jack and Shobita are back after a summer hiatus! We return talking about--of course--ChatGPT and other generative AI, the problem at Fukushima, and India's Chandrayaan Rover. Then we chat with Richard A.L. Jones, professor of material physics and innovation policy . He is also the Vice President for Regional Innovation and Civic Engagement at Manchester University.- Richard A.L. Jones (2022). "Science and innovation policy for hard times: an overview of the UK’s Research and Development landscape."The Productivity Institute.- Tom Forth and Richard A.L. Jones (2020). "The Missing £4 Billion." Nesta.- Richard A.L. Jones (2019). "A Resurgence of the Regions: rebuilding innovation capacity across the whole UK."- Richard A.L. Jones and James WIlsdon (2018). "The Biomedical Bubble."Nesta.Richard A.L. Jones.Soft Machines. Blog.- Jack Stilgoe (2023). "We need a Weizenbaum test for AI." Science. August 11.- Gil Scott-Heron, (1970) "Whitey on the Moon."Transcript and study questions available at thereceivedwisdom.org.