Shobita and Jack talk about the price of technological optimism, and speak with Ruha Benjamin, Associate Professor of African American Studies and founder of the JUST DATA lab at Princeton University. She is the author of Race After Technology: Abolitionist Tools for the New Jim Code, published by Polity Books earlier this year.Ruha Benjamin (2019). Race After Technology: Abolitionist Tools for the New Jim Code. Polity Books.Ruha Benjamin, editor (2019). Captivating Technology: Race, Carceral Technoscience, and Liberatory Imagination in Everyday Life. Duke University Press.Ruha Benjamin (2019). "White Supremacy and Artificial Intelligence." Yes! Magazine. August 28.Ruha Benjamin (2018). "Black Afterlives Matter." Boston Review. July 16.Ruha Benjamin (2016). "Catching Our Breath: Critical Race STS and the Carceral Imagination." eSTS: Engaging Science, Technology, and Society. Vol. 2: 145-156.Additional topics discussed on the podcast:Begley, Sharon (2019). "NIH and Gates Foundation launch effort to bring genetic cures for HIV, sickle cell disease to world's poor." STATNews. October 23.Fussell, Sidney (2019). "How an Attempt at Correcting Bias in Tech Goes Wrong." The Atlantic. October 9.John Morgan (2019). "Dominic Cummings' science obsession: based on fact or fiction?" Times Higher Education. October 16.(TRANSCRIPT)