Francina Kahl is the founder and CEO of Be Still Tea, a tea company that encourages stillness, creating space for our stories, and connecting with others and ourselves. In this episode we discuss: Invisibility and otherness in the churchThe importance of being able to sit with our own stories so we can sit with the stories of othersRacial trauma and what it’s like to be a black body in a white spaceREGISTER FOR RETREATCONUncertain is a podcast of  Tears of Eden, a community and resource for those in the aftermath of Spiritual Abuse. If you’re enjoying this podcast, please take a moment to like, subscribe, or leave a review on your favorite podcasting listening apparatus. You can support the podcast by going to TearsofEden.org/supportTo get in touch with us please email tearsofeden.org@gmail.comFollow on Instagram @uncertainpodcast