Tune in for a conversation about attempts to define quality, gatekeeping in early childhood, myths about one type of care being automatically higher quality, and more with Heather Bernt-Santy and Lizz Nolasco. Want to support Heather's work? You can do that on her Buy Me a Coffee page! https://www.buymeacoffee.com/heatherfNeed some That Early Childhood Nerd merch? You can find coffee mugs, shirts, hats, tote bags and even a (baby) onesie at the TECN shop: https://www.bonfire.com/store/that-early-childhood-nerd-store/