This episode features a conversation with Just Stop Oil supporter, Phoebe Plummer. It was recorded in March 2023.Phoebe, a 21-year-old student from London, has been arrested eight times for acts of civil disobedience associated with nonviolent civil resistance group, Just Stop Oil, most notably after having thrown soup on Van Gogh’s Sunflowers at the National Gallery. Amongst other things, our discussion explores the role of direct action in response to the climate crisis, the urgency of the situation, and what we, as communicators, can learn from groups like Just Stop Oil. Additional links:Just Stop Oil’s websiteJust Stop Oil activists throw soup at Van Gogh’s Sunflowers