Sam talks to Paul Street and Anthony DiMaggio about Trump’s open embrace of the fascist Qanon movement, the kidnapping of Venezuelan migrants by Florida governor Desantis, media and politicians’ normalization of fascism and much more. Paul Street is an historian and member of the Refuse Fascism editorial board, author of This Happened Here: Amerikaners, Neoliberals, and the Trumping of America; follow Paul on Twitter @Streetwriter17 and at paulstreet.org. Anthony DiMaggio is a political scientist and author of Rising Fascism in America: It Can Happen Here. Follow his work on Counterpunch. Note, this conversation was recorded before the fascist Meloni victory in Italy.
Salute to the courageous protesters fighting the theocracy in Iran this week! Must read: Iran's Feminist Revolution--Women, Life, Liberty by Mona Eltahawy. 
Wednesday, September 28 is International Safe Abortion Day
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Music for this episode: Penny the Snitch by Ikebe Shakedown

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