Sam comments on SCOTUS hearing Trump's presidential immunity claim and Trump and Biden visits to the Texas-Mexico border.
Then, she talks with Dr. Clarence Lusane to discuss the catastrophe for humanity of a second Trump presidency & lessons from the international rise of fascism. 
Dr. Lusane is a professor and Director of the International Affairs program at Howard University. He is an independent expert to the European Commission Against Racism and Intolerance. His latest book is Twenty Dollars and Change: Harriet Tubman and the Ongoing Fight for Racial Justice and Democracy. Read more from him here.
Plus: journalist Amanda Moore (@noturtlesoup17), who was banned from the Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC) joins us to provide insight on the neo-Nazis and other far-right figures she witnessed waltz unimpeded into CPAC. You can follow her work here.

Mentioned In the Episode:
The Catastrophe of a Second Trump Presidency by Clarence LusaneI Was Banned From CPAC, but the Extremists Weren’t by Amanda Moore

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Music for this episode: Penny the Snitch by Ikebe Shakedown
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