On this episode of Complicated Conversations we welcome Veronica West, showrunner, writer, creator and executive producer of the Apple TV+ series SURFACE, a twisty psychological thriller that asks the question: what if you woke up one day and didn’t know your own secrets?We chatted with Veronica about the creation of Sophie Ellis, the “interesting and skeptical and complicated” lead of this series (played brilliantly by Gugu Mbatha-Raw); how, despite losing her memory, Sophie still has her intuition and a willingness to let it lead her; the different versions of ourselves that we all present to the world and the existential crisis the questions of this series caused for us personally; the idea of who to trust and how people can be more than one thing; the ways a female-driven creative team like the one behind SURFACE  – Reese Withersoon, Lauren Neustadter & Hello Sunshine – helped to bring this series to life; our mutual obsession with the idea of fate vs. free will; and Veronica’s own origin story.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.