In this Complicated Conversation we are thrilled to be joined by Katie Gutierrez, the author of the debut novel More Than You'll Ever Know, an evocative drama about a woman caught leading a double life after one husband murders the other, and the true-crime writer who becomes obsessed with telling her story.** We discuss Cassie, the true crime writer, and learn about the challenges Katie faced finding her voice. (02:57)** Meanwhile, Lore Rivera, the other POV character in this novel, literally spoke to Katie in her dreams. She reveals the fascinating true life story that inspired her character and this novel. (05:28)** Katie shares why it is so important to her to explore the power dynamics in storytelling. (10:34)** Katie discusses one of our favorite topics: motherhood. She shares how becoming a mother twice over while writing this book impacted the novel specifically, but also the stories she wants to write and read more generally. (17:42)** As a debut author, we loved hearing about Katie’s path to publication and the MFA program that helped her find her unique voice. (30:05)** Katie had us swooning when she shared a story about meeting her now-husband on a plane as a 20 year old aspiring writer and reconnecting with him 8 years later. (35:34)** We discuss astrology and Katie definitely fits her sign. (40:55)** Katie shares what she’s loving right now. (42:22)Follow us on Instagram and Facebook @popfictionwomen and on Twitter @pop_women. Full a full deep dive head to www.popfictionwomen.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.