Welcome to Living Well with MS, where we are pleased to welcome Shannon Harvey as our guest! Shannon is an Australian journalist and filmmaker specialising in wellness, mental health, and optimising wellbeing for those with chronic conditions. Watch this episode on YouTube here. Keep reading for the key episode takeaways and Shannon’s bio. Questions and Timestamps: 03:17 Can you tell us about your film ‘The Connection: Mind Your Body’? 05:22 In your film ‘The Connection’ you interview some of the top scholars on mindfulness and the mind-body connection including Jon Kabat-Zinn and Dr. Herbert Benson. Can you tell us a bit about their work and what you learned from them? 08:05 You mentioned that for your project ‘My Year of Living Mindfully’ (both a film and book) you tried out the science on yourself. How did that go? 10:01 Is there a big difference between doing mindfulness rigorously every day and doing it three or four times a week? 11:21 You've also written a book, ‘The Whole Health Life’, and have interviewed dozens of scientists and patients about living a healthy life with an autoimmune disease. So, what are the takeaways from writing that? 12:55 You count Professor George Jelinek as a personal hero of yours. Could you tell us about what it was like to meet George? 15:44 Could you tell us about your latest project called ‘What if mental illness was preventable’? 18:38 How can listeners find out more about your work and watch your films? Key Takeaways: Making lifelong changes is hard but worth it. 12:19 “‘The Whole Health Life’ is broken up into very practical things that the Overcoming MS community is already [doing]. Things like making sure I regularly exercise, get enough sleep, have meaningful connections with the people that I love, and [how to] nurture those relationships. Then, [it] talks about the fact that making these lifelong changes is really, really hard. The book is also about how we can apply the science of behaviour change to actually make [these] changes [so] that we can actually stick to [them].” Professor George Jelinek shows that people can live well with chronic conditions. 13:04 “I met George (Jelinek) when I was first shooting ‘The Connection’. It was very much the beginning of my understanding of the many things that we can do for ourselves in order to live well with a chronic illness. He blew me away the first time I met him, because he was really well, despite everything. Despite his family history, despite his prognosis, he was just so well, and meeting him was quite inspirational because I thought to myself, ‘well, if, if he can do it, then he's like a living case study for me to show that I can do it, too.’” Shannon’s next project asks, “What if mental illness was preventable?”   16:53 “While I was making ‘My Year of Living Mindfully’, I learned that so much of mental illness actually begins before the age of 20 or 22, I think it is. If you develop a mental illness at a young age, you are significantly more likely to develop it again later in life. If you've developed it a second time, it greatly increases your chances of developing it a third time. So, I'm really personally interested in this idea of prevention.” Want to learn more about living a full and happy life with multiple sclerosis? Sign up to our newsletter to hear our latest tips. More info and links: Find out more about Shannon’s work Find out more about ‘The Connection’ Find out more about ‘My Year of Living Mindfully’ Jon Kabat-Zinn and Mindfulness-Based Stress Reduction Find out more about Dr. Herbert Benson Read about George Jelinek’s personal story Listen to S5E13 Meditation tips with Professor Craig Hassed Visit the Overcoming MS Mental Health Hub New to Overcoming MS? Visit our introductory page  Connect with others following Overcoming MS on the Live Well Hub Visit the Overcoming MS website Follow us on social media: Facebook Instagram YouTube Pinterest Don’t miss out:  Subscribe to this podcast and never miss an epis