Penn and Kim Holderness join the 1000 Hours Outside Podcast to talk about overcoming anxiety and nurturing marriage.  Effective communication takes center stage as Penn and Kim discuss techniques like the "Yes, And" and "Tell Me More" approaches. They share much needed verbiage that can help with small and large conflicts. The concept of secret contracts within a relationship is explored, highlighting unspoken expectations that can lead to misunderstandings.  They even introduce the 12-minute rule... which may help with many aspects of your life that you find challenging.  Contrary to popular belief, Penn and Kim paint marital conflict in a positive light, emphasizing how healthy resolution can deepen connection and understanding. They share personal experiences to exemplify how disagreements have strengthened their relationship. Penn and Kim also discuss how a better marriage enhances their commitment to spending time outdoors with their children and family. They highlight the positive impact of nature on family dynamics and overall well-being. Throughout the episode, practical advice is provided based on their own experiences, offering listeners actionable steps to improve their marriages and foster deeper connections. Check out Everybody Fights here >> https://amzn.to/3CPeThw Learn more about Penn and Kim here >> https://theholdernessfamily.com/