Today's interview was led by TechCrunch Global Managing Editor, Ingrid Lunden. Ingrid spoke to Rick Song, one of the co-founders of Persona, which built and offers a large suite of identity verification solutions to address the ever-growing issue of identity fraud. Joining Rick is Mark Goldberg of Index Ventures, a firm that made a prescient move to spot and back Persona early on.Mark and Rick spoke to us about:How Persona keeps pace with AI Verification and Online TrustHow Index Ventures is riding on the wave of the startup’s growthAnd the unique and complex issues that come to the public’s mind with AIMatt Burns closed out the show with audience questions and a new batch of founders for Pitch Practice. And as always, if you want to check out the full video of today's conversation, head to our YouTube channel and stay tuned for more TechCrunch Live!The TechCrunch Live Podcast drops at 6:00 a.m. PT every Monday, so subscribe to us on Apple Podcasts, Overcast,Spotify and all the casts.