In this episode, Mary Conquest speaks with Dr Ivan Pupulidy, an international speaker and consultant focused on Risk, Safety, Aviation, Wildland Firefighting and Human and Organizational Performance (HOP). He spent over two decades in the US Forest Service, culminating in a promotion to Director of the Office of Innovation and organizational learning.Accident investigation techniques have remained static for many decades, yet complexity is increasing. and workplaces are not necessarily safer.Therefore, Ivan introduced an alternative approach: The Learning Review.Unlike other accident protocols, it’s designed to understand human actions in complex adaptive systems. Ivan explains how to conduct a learning review in the workplace and why it helps HSE professionals improve safety cultures.He describes the transition from a frame of unhelpful judgment to positive understanding of the accident, where the system - not individuals - is the key focus of the review.Ivan explains the importance of humble inquiry, “complex narrative”, focus groups, inclusivity and engagement, new safety review terminology and “learning products”.It’s a fascinating journey of cultural change, innovation and organizational learning - that ultimately enhanced safety in the US Forest Service.The university program where Ivan teaches:School of Engineering – Advanced Safety Engineering and Management | UABIvan and his wife’s consultancy business:What is Dynamic Inquiry?Dr Ivan Pupulidy on LinkedInlinkedin.com/in/ivanpupulidySafety Labs is created by Slice, the only safety knife on the market with a finger-friendly® blade. Find us at www.sliceproducts.comIf you have any questions, please email us at safetylabs@sliceproducts.com