Rob Clyde is a senior board director of ISACA, the chairman of the board for White Cloud Security and an advisor to ShardSecure. Rob has a long history in cybersecurity education and training. ISACA's recent 2021 State of Cybersecurity Study reported that 61% of respondents say that cybersecurity teams are understaffed and 55% report that they have unfilled cybersecurity positions. Among other topics, Rob and Steve theorize about the best strategies to close the cybersecurity skills and talent gap, from training non-security employees to pivot in their career to educating children in K-12.