Rukmini Banerji is CEO of India’s Pratham Education Foundation.Founded 25 years ago to teach out-of-school youngsters in the slums of Mumbai, Pratham  has grown to become one of the country's largest NGOs, delivering high quality but low-cost interventions to millions of Indian children.It works directly with children and youth as well as through large-scale collaborations with government systems using mapping and data to help inform teaching approaches.Pratham's Annual Status of Education Report (ASER) has become a key benchmarking tool for the Indian education system, while its Teaching at the Right Level (TARL), programme, “has led to some of the largest learning gains among rigorously evaluated education programmes”, according to the Abdul Latif Jameel Poverty Action Lab (J-PAL).In 2021, in recognition of her contribution to the sector, Rukmini was awarded the prestigious Yidan Prize for education.In this episode of The Impact Room, Rukmini talks about balancing inputs with outcomes, parental engagement, and the importance of partnerships in delivering systemic change.“Big change doesn't happen because you drop training modules onto a context, or you create an app or you create some kind of an assessment,” she says. “It happens when energised and motivated individuals put all these things together.  That's how real change happens.”For more on Pratham, visit their website or follow them on social media at @Pratham_India. You may also be interested in this guide from the Brookings Institution about family-school engagement.The Impact Room is brought to you by Philanthropy Age and Maysa Jalbout. The Impact Room is brought to you by Philanthropy Age and Maysa Jalbout. This episode was produced and edited by Louise Redvers.