To wrap-up our series on Demography Shifts, Colleen (MPP ‘21) sat down with Goldman School Visiting Assistant Professor Mia Bird, who started as an MPP student at GSPP before pursuing an MA in economic demography (and then returning again to GSPP as a PhD!). Professor Bird discusses the different approaches that demographers and policymakers might take toward demographic shifts, shares her perspective on how demography can help destabilize stuck-in-the-past policy models, and offers thoughts on how demography and policy might work together in the future. Colleen and Sarah (MPP ‘20) tease out some of the lessons they’ve learned about demography throughout this series and consider their responsibility to fold the demographic perspective into their work as future policy leaders.