Jill Vialet (Founder of Playworks) joins Phil to discuss her new book; Why Play Works - Big Changes Start Small. In this conversation Jill shares; - Her introduction to play and how she forged a career in this industry - A story about a colleague interacting with a school that didn't have recess - How the research supports the importance of play - The activity that she often ends her programs with. Find out more about Playworks - playworks.org Find out more about Jill - jillvialet.com