Jayson Gaddis is a psychologist and expert on marriage and relationships. He is the founder of The Relationship School, and is also the host of The Relationship School podcast. Today he talks to Commander Divine about the ongoing challenges of relationships, as well as some of the specific issues around the COVID lockdown. The most important Part of a relationship is mutual growth Shame is self-directed, guilt is other directed You need to be with strong emotion, pain and discomfort. Conflict is where growth comes from. Listen to this episode to get a better grip on how relationships work, especially in the current situation.