Lewis Pugh was the first person to complete long-distance swims in every ocean of the world, leveraging publicity to, as he puts it, ‘shake the lapels of world leaders’. An ocean advocate and campaigner, Lewis pioneers swims in the most vulnerable ecosystems on Earth to call for their protection. He has been instrumental in protecting over 2 million km2 of vulnerable ocean – an area larger than Western Europe. His life’s ambition is to help protect 30% of the world’s oceans by 2030. He is known as, ‘the Speedo diplomat.’David Becker is a performance mind coach, sports lawyer, author and award winning screenwriter. David is a long-time friend of Lewis and also serves as his adviser and mental performance coach. He has supported Lewis on expeditions including those to Svalbard, the North Pole and Mt. Everest and been a consistent source of support throughout Lewis’ career.Together, they talk about winning over Putin’s inner circle, the day Lewis surprised the Queen, meeting Tony Blair in a pair of Speedos and how to significantly raise your body temperature through sheer force of will.This four way conversation was recorded on 6th September 2022.