Dan Toma is a co-author of the book "The Corporate Startup" along with Tendayi Viki and Esther Gons. He got his start as an entrepreneur working in and around startups and then in accelerators. The book came out of one of his first corporate innovation jobs with Deutsche Telekom, which is the third largest carrier in the world. Dan and Josh talked about some of the trouble spots for corporate innovation teams, how to measure results for optimization and innovation differently, and some examples of what those different innovation accounting measures look like. Find his book on Amazon and find Dan on LinkedIn. For information regarding your data privacy, visit acast.com/privacy