In this episode Erik gets confused but we eventually discuss the placebo effect and how it effects everything we do with patients. But the question is do we need to be focusing on it so much and using our time and resources to investigate it? We then discuss the contentious issue of experience. Do you as a clinician need to have had personal experience of the things you ask your patients to do to be effective and credible? As always hold tight… this could get a little bumpy! Music by Kevin MacLeod - incompetech.com: Intro - Also sprach Zarathustra Close - Vivacity