David Leonhardt, author of The Morning newsletter from the New York Times, is one of the most influential writers on COVID and COVID policy. He talks with Josh about how he synthesizes expert views for a broad audience, how to help people weigh costs and benefits, and the future of COVID response after Omicron. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. Get full access to Very Serious at www.joshbarro.com/subscribe