In this episode, Rupert Spira and Piers Thurston talk about how the pandemic has created the opportunity for more people to be curious about the fundamentals of the self. They discuss this curiosity and the seeking of our true being, as well as the relevance of discovering non duality for the business world. Piers Thurston is a founder and director of Making Change Work, an attitude and behaviour change consultancy. He is also the host of the podcast Quality of Mind: Realising Exponential Potential.