In this episode, Rupert talks with Henry Fischer and Jaap Sluijter from the Krishnamurti Educational Center in California. Their discussion includes Rupert's meeting Krishnamurti, the relationship between thoughts and awareness, and the John Smith/King Lear metaphor for understanding the illusory separate self.   You can find out more about the Krishnamurti Foundation of America via either of the links below.     Website: kfa.org  Podcast: theimmeasurable.org