In this episode, Rupert talks with Keith Kristich from closerthanbreath.com. After a brief meditation, they discuss various aspects of Rupert’s spiritual journey, including the traditions and teachers he draws upon for his teachings. They also explore the nature of prayer, contemplating how all we ever experience is God’s being, along with the practical implications of that understanding. The conversation delves into Rupert’s book, "The Heart of Prayer" and concludes with a question-and-answer session.