Today's episode with Erin Fuller is an excellent way to start the New Year and consider new strategies and perspectives from a professional who has over 20 years experience managing associations. As President of the Association Management & Consulting Branch of MCI USA Group, she has driven the growth of her own firm as well as that of dozens of other associations across the United States. One problem she sees again and again is the conviction of some nonprofit staff that nonprofits don't need to make money and somehow need to avoid it. As she astutely observes, "Nonprofit is a tax status, it's not a business model." Join us for this conversation as we explore the benefits and challenges of association management.  Erin Fuller serves as the president of association management and consulting at MCI USA, and leads more than 100 professionals in working with nonprofit organizations. She has worked at MCI since 2002, and has spent more than 20 years working for and leading associations. MCI USA is a division of the MCI Group, an event and association management global firm of more than 2000 talents in 62 offices in 31 countries serving more than 1500 organizations each year.