For today’s show, I chat to an athlete who's just returned from her first Olympic Games , open water swimmer, Alice Dearing. When we met in a small park in Camberley in the south of England, she was still unpacking all of what she’s been through from being part of the hugely successful team GB to her first Olympic final and how she would approach it again. It was fascinating to listen to her talk about all of that, how she deals with the ridiculously early morning training and volume as well as the sheer danger involved in swimming in open water. Alice is also Great Britain’s first female black swimmer and we talk about that as we close our chat but we start with me asking her how she’s dealing with her time off and not being in a strict regime.