In this episode, my guest is Mark Vernon, the author of the new book Dante’s Divine Comedy: A Guide for the Spiritual Journey. Mark is a psychotherapist and writer interested in spirituality and inner life. He has a Ph.D. in ancient philosophy, as well as degrees in physics and theology. You can learn more about Mark’s work at markvernon.com.In the conversation, Mark and I discuss: Psychotherapy and the spiritual pathWhy the way down can be the way upThe role of guides on the spiritual pathHow the Divine Comedy can change our perceptionWisdom in daily life and much moreFollow In Search of Wisdom: Instagram | Twitter | YoutubeSponsor: This conversation is brought to you in high-quality audio courtesy of Squadcast; start your free trial today. Get full access to Perennial Meditations at perennial.substack.com/subscribe