In this episode, I speak to Catherine Wilson the author of How to Be an Epicurean: The Ancient Art of Living Well.  Catherine received her Ph.D. in philosophy from Princeton University and has taught at universities in the US, Canada, and Europe. Her research is focused on the relationship between the natural and social sciences and classical philosophical problems in the following areas: the history of atomism and materialism; theories of life and sensory awareness; visuality and aesthetics, and morality and emotions from an evolutionary perspective. In the conversation, Catherine and I discuss:Catherine’s path to philosophyThe pivotal figures in EpicureanismPleasure and PainThe virtue of Justice Managing our desires and much more Follow In Search of Wisdom:Twitter: twitter.com/searchofwisdomInstagram: instagram.com/searchofwisdompodcastSign-up for The PATH our free newsletter (short reflections on wisdom).  Get full access to Perennial Meditations at perennial.substack.com/subscribe