This is the honest conversation I've been waiting to have with another ally.My colleague Kathryn Morrison came on my show before to talk about busting out of 'employee mindset' and stepping into CEO mode when it comes to building a 6-figure coaching business.Now, she's back. And we're talking about how to step into CEO mode in a different way. What does it take to break out of complicity and take leadership when it comes to changing oppressive systems?We talk about:Breaking out of the illusion of "I'm doing enough"How we are conditioned to be obedient to structures of powerThe difference between soul shame vs. ego shame How to redirect thoughts that create complicity in our own brainsHow the life coaching industry can be a voice of moral authority... and so much more.This episode is full of big ideas and big questions... and it's only the beginning of what I hope will be lifelong journeys toward conscious inquiry and moral leadership for all of us in the life coaching industry.---Show notesSimone's (extremely non-exhaustive) list of recommended resources, and people to follow:The Black Coaches DirectoryFor ally education resources: The Black Girl Project Bookshop Inclusivity advocacy and consulting expert Desiree Lynn AdawayRe-imagining Small Business: Town Hall (organized by Ericka Hines, Rachel Rodgers and Susan Hyatt)Artist & writer Danielle Coke--Follow Kathryn Morrison on Instagram.