In this episode, we discuss the common "staircase" metaphor as applied to shaping plans, a new non-linear approach to thinking about shaping, breaking down a goal behavior into components, how the wrong starting point or intermediate step can make getting to your goal behavior harder (even if it looks closer), thinking in terms of actions rather than outcomes, and lots of examples with dogs, horses, and people! For full show notes, visit: www.hannahbranigan.dog/podcast/109 This podcast is supported by Zero to CD: hannahbranigan.dog/z2cd/