We're in instant replay mode this week on The Limits, revisiting Jay's conversation with billionaire tech mogul Mark Cuban. Whether it's the NFL or the NBA, healthcare policy or America's two-party political system, Mark Cuban believes that when you buck tradition, you begin to grow. In this episode, the Dallas Mavericks owner and Shark Tank investor challenges NFL franchise owners to rethink who they hire and why. He applies that same logic to the healthcare industry, where he is upending the market by flipping it on its head and selling more directly to consumers. These big ideas come from a man who hustled his way from his working-class roots all the way to the billionaire club. At a time when the American dream feels completely out of reach, Mark explains why he still believes in it. For sponsor-free episodes, weekly bonus content, and more, subscribe to The Limits Plus at plus.npr.org/thelimits. Follow Jay on Instagram and Twitter. Email us at thelimits@npr.org.