Dr. Rosalind Watts joins us on the show to help breakdown and better understand the nuances of the psilocybin for depression trials she leads at Imperial College London. We also talk about what her team's research helped her understand about the nature of depression, the value of feeling into our emotional pain, and what makes the difference between those who's lives turn out for the best and those who fall back into depression.   --LINKS-- For links to Bruce's work, full show notes, and to watch this episode in video, head to Https://bit.ly/ATTMind112 **Full Topics Breakdown Below   --- SUPPORT THIS PODCAST —  Patreon: https://patreon.com/jameswjesso Donations: https://www.paypal.me/JWJesso Merchandise: https://www.jameswjesso.com/shop/ More options: https://www.jameswjesso.com/support/   Sponsor: FORMULA Nootropics https://www.jameswjesso.com/formula Use promo code "jesso" to get 20% off your first order.   Newsletter: https://www.jameswjesso.com/newsletter   -- EPISODE BREAKDOWN -- the current state of psilocybin for depression research at Imperial College London exploring the results of their previous study of treating depression with psilocybin when do the results fade? why do some people have no effects when the take psilocybin how that relates to safety and polyvagal theory the visualization metaphor they use to help people prepare for their psilocybin session how society pushes us to dissociate or emotions and the value of feeling our uncomfortable feelings the value of safety during psychedelic therapy “this is not just a brain reset; this is a journey.” the positive potentials and problematic pitfalls of microdosing psilocybin why the depression comes back after psilocybin treatment it takes so much courage to do this thing the value of grief and sorrow to heal your life depression and self-forgiveness how directive is psilocybin-assisted psychotherapy during the psilocybin session? how psilocybin helps people heal depression does psilocybin hold an innate healing intelligence? the Accept, Connect, Embody (ACE) model for finding meaning through emotional journeying how Watts’ team using the ACE model in their psilocybin for the treatment of depression study experiential avoidance and its role in depression meaning, what is it? is it found or made or both?   --- BOOKS —    Decomposing The Shadow: https://www.jameswjesso.com/decomposing-the-shadow/ The True Light Of Darkness: https://www.jameswjesso.com/true-light-darkness/   --- LINKS —    Website: https://www.jameswjesso.com/ Speaking Tour: https://www.jameswjesso.com/events/ Podcast: https://www.jameswjesso.com/podcast/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/jameswjesso Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/attmindpodcast/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jameswjesso   --- PRODUCTS —    Art: https://www.jameswjesso.com/product-category/art/ Teeshirts: https://www.jameswjesso.com/product-category/clothing/ Lectures: https://www.jameswjesso.com/product/psychedelics-ritualistic-suffering-and-the-meaning-of-life-lecture/