SF's The Mill owner and author Josey Baker joins Kristen to talk about baking with whole grains (it's not as simple as swapping 1:1 with white flour!), combating picky eating in kids (it's a process), and why whole-wheat and -grain baked goods have gotten such a bad rap.Referenced in this episode:The Simple Secret to Much, Much Better Whole-Grain PancakesJosey Baker's Whole Grain Pancakes recipeGenius-Hunter Extra Credit:Check out Josey's how-to-sourdough-at-home guideOr, better yet: take a class with Josey himselfSpecial thanks to listeners Caroline, Sana, and Kaleigh for your sharing your sneaky swaps!