Kia Ora Whanau. This week Eugene and Matt have the pleasure of speaking to Wellington stalwart Sam McCutcheon. Sam loves running, and, whilst Sam would cringe to hear you say it, he is very good at it. Sam has won The Kepler Challenge twice, set the Wuu2k course record, and clinched third place at the Tarawera 102km. Sam has represented New Zealand at the world trail running championships, placed 7th at the CCC, and most recently banged out a 1:08:45 half marathon PB. And whilst, yes, this is all very impressive, Sam’s conversation with us highlights so much more about his world view, and love of travel, the decision to move to Edinburgh with his wife Sarah to work and seek new experiences, throwing himself headlong into the urban trail races in Edinborough, trying his hand at the odd fell race, and of course, we touch on Scottish property law and Eugene cops to a reality tv show dependence. This conversation is excellent, and to be honest, Matt and Eugene were both a bit nervous at the start. Did we tell you Sam was third at Laverado this year? Enjoy!