Kia ora whanau! Eugene and Matt speak to nine-time Formula One Grand Prix winner and all round  legend Mark Webber about his career, a performance mindset, his love of the outdoors, and his new company-Aussie Grit. It’s fair to say that neither Eugene or Matt are racing aficionados so it was a special treat to speak to Mark, who true to his reputation of being “a regular Aussie bloke”, was down-to-earth and generous with our naive questions about what it is like to be strapped into a rocket and drive it around a track at over 300 kph. This conversation is an education about controlling what you can control, the importance of having good people in your corner, and just how important and fulfilling being outdoors can be. We talk to Mark about his love of the trails, be that on foot or two wheels, the Tasmania Challenge adventure race, and the care, dedication, and understatement that goes into every Aussie Grit garment. I mean, apparently we disagree on just what is an appropriate seam length for a running short, with Matt and Eugene both being adherents to the “classique” 3” but we found an oasis of common ground during this wonderful conversation.  Enjoy.