Kia Ora Whanau. This week we have a real treat for you. Shaun Collins, the head of Lactic Turkey events, the Running Beast himself, one of the first two people to run the iconic Hilary Trail, and the only person to have completed a triple Hillary trail in one shot. We have an engaging and detailed conversation about the implications that a council-imposed ban on entering the Waitakere Ranges (to combat Kauri Dieback) is having on Shaun’s iconic Hillary Ultra, and the courageous decision to call the race off this year, out of respect for the rāhui that was put on the ranges by Te Kawerau Ā Maki, the mana whenua of the area. We discuss Shaun’s triumphant return to racing ultramarathons and trail events, his triple Hillary (or Trillary) and how he escaped with his faculties more or less intact. We talk about Wild Auckland, Shaun’s new trail series in lesser known trails in the greater Auckland area, and how opening people’s eyes to new trails is only a good thing. We discuss Shaun’s history as an orienteer/adventure racer and also what the future holds. As always, we spring the “Greatest Run Ever” question on Mr Collins, and generally  have a whale of a time. Enjoy!!!