I speak with filmmaker, marketer, and sense-maker, Rob Hardy. We discuss how to navigate the complexity of human values, the tension between freedom and constraint, the intersection of values and politics, the rise of secular "religions," what it means to be a citizen, and much more.   Please support our sponsor, Skillshare. Skillshare is an online learning community with over 25,000 courses on a wide range of subjects from cooking to writing to watercolor painting. I love it and use it to keep my mind sharp. Try the Premium Membership for free here: skillshare.com/THINKGROW.