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087: Talking with children about race, with Dr. Beverly Daniel Tatum
FromYour Parenting Mojo - Respectful, research-based parenting ideas to help kids thrive
087: Talking with children about race, with Dr. Beverly Daniel Tatum
FromYour Parenting Mojo - Respectful, research-based parenting ideas to help kids thrive
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60 minutes
Released:
Mar 31, 2019
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Podcast episode
Description
We’ve laid a lot of groundwork on topics related to race by now: we learned about white https://yourparentingmojo.com/whiteprivilege/ (privilege in parenting), and https://yourparentingmojo.com/schoolprivilege/ (white privilege in schools), and even https://yourparentingmojo.com/sports/ (how parents can use sports to give their children advantages in school and in life).
Today my listener Dr. Kim Rybacki and I interview a giant in the field: Dr. Beverly Daniel Tatum, author of the now-classic book (recently released in a 20th anniversary edition!) https://www.amazon.com/Black-Kids-Sitting-Together-Cafeteria/dp/0465083617 (Why Are All the Black Kids Sitting Together in the Cafeteria: And Other Conversations About Race).
We begin by assessing what is White parents’ responsibility to help dismantle structural racism, and then learn how to discuss race and racism with our children. And in the next episode in this series I’ll have some really in-depth resources to support you in having these conversations with your own children.
References
Bonilla-Silva, E., (2004). From bi-racial to tri-racial: Towards a new system of racial stratification in the USA. Ethnic and Racial Studies 27(6), 931-950.
Cheney-Rice, Z. (2018, November 11). Bernie Sanders and the lies we tell white voters. New York Intelligencer. Retrieved from http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2018/11/bernie-sanders-and-the-lies-we-tell-white-voters.html
Derman-Sparks, L., & Olsen, J. (2009). Anti-bias education for young children and ourselves. National Association for the Education of Young Children. Available at https://www.naeyc.org/resources/pubs/books/anti-bias-education
Hagerman, M. (2018). White Kids: Growing up with privilege in a racially divided America. New York, NY: New York University Press.
Helms, J. E. (Ed.). (1990). Contributions in Afro-American and African studies, No. 129. Black and White racial identity: Theory, research, and practice. New York, NY, England: Greenwood Press.
King, M.L. (2010). Where do we go from here: Chaos or Community? Boston, MA: Beacon.
Kivel, P. (2017). Uprooting racism: How white people can work for racial justice (4th Ed.). Gabriola Island, B.C.: New Society.
Miller, S. (2017, December 8). Reading race: Proactive conversations with young children. Raising Race-Conscious Children. Retrieved from http://www.raceconscious.org/2017/12/explicitlanguageracebooks/
Roda, A. (2015). Inequality in gifted and talented programs: Parental choices about status, school opportunity, and second-generation segregation. London, U.K.: Palgrave MacMillan.
Stalvey, L.M. (1989). The education of a WASP. Madison, WI: The University of Wisconsin Press.
Sullivan, S. (2014). Good white people: The problem with middle-class white anti-racism. Albany, NY: State University of New York Press.
Tatum, B.D. (2017). Why Are All the Black Kids Sitting Together in the Cafeteria?. New York, NY: Basic.
Van Ausdale, D.V. & Feagin, J.R. (2001). The first R: How children learn race and racism. Lanham, MD: Rowman & Littlefield.
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Jen: 01:25
Hello and welcome to the Your Parenting Mojo podcast. We have a very special episode lined up for today and I’m recording this introduction separately, so as not to take time away from the interview. If you’re a regular listener, you might have heard my episodes on White Privilege and Parenting and also White Privilege in Schools in which we looked at some of the structural racism that’s present in our society that we might not have recognized until now, especially if we’re white. I’d also like to direct you back to the very beginning of the show because in episode 6, which was called “Wait, is my toddler racist?” We discovered how implicit bias works, how it’s often present even in very young children and how just not talking with children about color or what is known as the colorblind approach is one of the more effective...
Today my listener Dr. Kim Rybacki and I interview a giant in the field: Dr. Beverly Daniel Tatum, author of the now-classic book (recently released in a 20th anniversary edition!) https://www.amazon.com/Black-Kids-Sitting-Together-Cafeteria/dp/0465083617 (Why Are All the Black Kids Sitting Together in the Cafeteria: And Other Conversations About Race).
We begin by assessing what is White parents’ responsibility to help dismantle structural racism, and then learn how to discuss race and racism with our children. And in the next episode in this series I’ll have some really in-depth resources to support you in having these conversations with your own children.
References
Bonilla-Silva, E., (2004). From bi-racial to tri-racial: Towards a new system of racial stratification in the USA. Ethnic and Racial Studies 27(6), 931-950.
Cheney-Rice, Z. (2018, November 11). Bernie Sanders and the lies we tell white voters. New York Intelligencer. Retrieved from http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2018/11/bernie-sanders-and-the-lies-we-tell-white-voters.html
Derman-Sparks, L., & Olsen, J. (2009). Anti-bias education for young children and ourselves. National Association for the Education of Young Children. Available at https://www.naeyc.org/resources/pubs/books/anti-bias-education
Hagerman, M. (2018). White Kids: Growing up with privilege in a racially divided America. New York, NY: New York University Press.
Helms, J. E. (Ed.). (1990). Contributions in Afro-American and African studies, No. 129. Black and White racial identity: Theory, research, and practice. New York, NY, England: Greenwood Press.
King, M.L. (2010). Where do we go from here: Chaos or Community? Boston, MA: Beacon.
Kivel, P. (2017). Uprooting racism: How white people can work for racial justice (4th Ed.). Gabriola Island, B.C.: New Society.
Miller, S. (2017, December 8). Reading race: Proactive conversations with young children. Raising Race-Conscious Children. Retrieved from http://www.raceconscious.org/2017/12/explicitlanguageracebooks/
Roda, A. (2015). Inequality in gifted and talented programs: Parental choices about status, school opportunity, and second-generation segregation. London, U.K.: Palgrave MacMillan.
Stalvey, L.M. (1989). The education of a WASP. Madison, WI: The University of Wisconsin Press.
Sullivan, S. (2014). Good white people: The problem with middle-class white anti-racism. Albany, NY: State University of New York Press.
Tatum, B.D. (2017). Why Are All the Black Kids Sitting Together in the Cafeteria?. New York, NY: Basic.
Van Ausdale, D.V. & Feagin, J.R. (2001). The first R: How children learn race and racism. Lanham, MD: Rowman & Littlefield.
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[accordion-item title="Click here to read the full transcript"]
Jen: 01:25
Hello and welcome to the Your Parenting Mojo podcast. We have a very special episode lined up for today and I’m recording this introduction separately, so as not to take time away from the interview. If you’re a regular listener, you might have heard my episodes on White Privilege and Parenting and also White Privilege in Schools in which we looked at some of the structural racism that’s present in our society that we might not have recognized until now, especially if we’re white. I’d also like to direct you back to the very beginning of the show because in episode 6, which was called “Wait, is my toddler racist?” We discovered how implicit bias works, how it’s often present even in very young children and how just not talking with children about color or what is known as the colorblind approach is one of the more effective...
Released:
Mar 31, 2019
Format:
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