We’re discussing race: how we can talk about it with our kids and how we can talk about it with each other as mothers. Guest VANESSA BADEN KELLY and host Ellie Knaus discuss color blindness, beauty standards, modern day segregation, diversity in the classroom, code-switching, mom groups, and Vanessa's concerns about the challenges her son will face as a young black man in America.

Vanessa is a new mama, community organizer, television/film actress/writer, and one busy woman. Her bio reads: As a community organizer she has worked with Community Coalition, Brave New Films, the Center for Health Environment and Justice, and Obama for America (2008). Vanessa trains organizers for the Children’s Defense Fund’s YALT initiative, and is one of the original members of the Dream Defenders. She also serves as a consultant for the Trayvon Martin Foundation. Currently she works on the new Netflix Original series Ozark (2017).

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