Welcome back to Therapy Chat! In this week's episode, recorded prior to the start of the pandemic, host Laura Reagan, LCSW-C interviews therapist Dr. Margaret Rutherford, author of the recent book "Perfectly Hidden Depression" and host of the Self Work Podcast. Though the interview took place pre-pandemic, the subject of the discussion is just as timely now, if not more so, with so many people impacted by the mental health effects of the events of 2020. Dr. Margaret Rutherford, a clinical psychologist, has practiced for twenty-six years in Fayetteville, Arkansas. Earning the 2009 Arkansas Private Practitioner of the Year award for her volunteer work at a local free health clinic, she began blogging and podcasting in 2012 to destigmatize mental illness and educate the public about therapy and treatment. With her compassionate and common-sense style, her work can be found at HuffPost, Psych Central, Psychology Today, The Mighty, the Gottman Blog and others. She hosts a weekly podcast, The SelfWork Podcast with Dr. Margaret Rutherford. And her new book, Perfectly Hidden Depression: How to Break Free from the Perfectionism that Masks Your Depression, is published by New Harbinger and available at Amazon, Barnes and Noble or your local bookstore. Thank you to this episode's sponsor, TherapyNotes. Get a 2 month free trial of TherapyNotes by going to www.TherapyNotes.com and using the promo code TherapyChat. Resources Find everything Margaret is doing, including her book, podcast and therapy work at - www.drmargaretrutherford.com  Purchase Margaret's book, Perfectly Hidden Depression, here: https://amzn.to/3eut0fe Want a cool Therapy Chat t-shirt, sticker or mug? Find them here: https://www.teepublic.com/user/therapychat  Leave me a message via Speakpipe by going to https://therapychatpodcast.com and clicking on the green Speakpipe button.  Thank you for listening to Therapy Chat! Please be sure to go to iTunes and leave a rating and review, subscribe and download episodes. You can also download the Therapy Chat app on iTunes by clicking here.  Podcast produced by Pete Bailey - https://petebailey.net/audio