The Ringer's Ben Lindbergh and Jason Concepcion speak to director Doug Liman about the influence of video games on his movies 'Swingers,' 'The Bourne Identity,' and 'Edge of Tomorrow' (2:44), the narrative differences between video games and movies (8:57), how to tell stories in VR (13:38), and his latest projects, 'The Wall' and 'Invisible' (16:17). Then they bring on college football star and NFL first-round draft pick Jonathan Allen to talk about his taste in video games (24:21), his plans to build a gaming PC (25:40), how he fits gaming into his football schedule (28:09), and his two big complaints about games (37:17). Lastly, they ask Ars Technica senior gaming editor Kyle Orland about a court case involving Valve and Blizzard that will decide who owns the rights to the mega-popular 'Dota' series (39:44).