Thom and Brad take the show to our nation's capital for a conversation with Justin Draeger, President and CEO of the National Association of Student Financial Aid Administrators. In this episode, we discuss policy positions on a variety of topics including the Pell Grant, whether there's a student loan crisis, free college, and the similarities between The Weightlist and Good Morning America. Brad’s beer: Guinness Draught, Guinness Brewery, Dublin, Ireland https://untappd.com/b/guinness-guinness-draught/4473 Thom’s beer: Vienna Lager, Devil's Backbone Brewing Company, Roseland, VA https://untappd.com/b/devils-backbone-brewing-company-vienna-lager/18974 Links: Why Free College Tuition Is Spreading From Cities to States: https://www.pewtrusts.org/en/research-and-analysis/blogs/stateline/2018/01/05/why-free-college-tuition-is-spreading-from-cities-to-states Decoding the Cost of College: The Case for Transparent Financial Aid Award Letters https://www.newamerica.org/education-policy/policy-papers/decoding-cost-college/ Hoxby, C. & Turner, S. The Right Way to Capture College "Opportunity". https://www.educationnext.org/right-way-capture-college-opportunity-popular-measures-can-paint-wrong-picture-low-income-student-enrollment/ The FRED Blog Are household debt and student debt exploding? https://fredblog.stlouisfed.org/2017/05/are-household-and-student-debt-exploding/ A crisis in student loans? How changes in the characteristics of borrowers and in the institutions, they attended contributed to rising loan defaults. https://www.brookings.edu/bpea-articles/a-crisis-in-student-loans-how-changes-in-the-characteristics-of-borrowers-and-in-the-institutions-they-attended-contributed-to-rising-loan-defaults/ Weightlist Podcast (yup, we cited ourselves!) Episode 16 – Reshaping Educational Accountability with Aimee Rogstad Guidera https://capturehighered.com/weightlist/episode-16-reshaping-educational-accountability-aimee-rogstad-guidera/