How To Win An Argument With A Vegan By An Ex-Vegan

By Greg Dinneen

I have been a Vegetarian since 1971.
I still am a Vegetarian.

I was a Vegan for 18 of those years.
And, as an Ex-Vegan I have learned how to defend myself against Vegans.

You can win an argument with a Vegan by asking them if the eat Organic-Food.

If they say “Yes”, as most of them do, you have got them.

Tell them that Organic-Food is fertilised with:

1: Blood and Bone;
2: Chicken-dung from Factory-Farms;
3: Macerated Day-Old Chickens;
4: Sprayed with Fish-Emulsion.

Then tell them that they are financially supporting every form of animal-agriculture, while claiming to be Vegans.

Farm-Animals.

Vegans tell people not to produce commercial farm-animal products humanely, because if you do, fewer people will want to be Vegans.

Yet, Vegans themselves, produce farm-animal products, such as eggs and wool, humanely at their charity Farm-animal Sanctuaries.

Laboratory-Animals.

Vegans promote vivisection, via T Colin Campbell, and "The China Study".

Health.

Ill-health, caused by Vegan diets – is a major reason why almost all Vegans become Ex-Vegans.
Or, cheat.

And, since most adult Vegans cannot maintain their own health on Vegan diets, no matter how many supplements they use, how can most Vegans raise healthy babies and children on Vegan diets?

Environment and Social-Justice [World Food Supply].

You can produce more food, from the same land, with fewer environmental inputs, from mixed animal-plant agriculture, than 100% plant agriculture.

Poultry free-ranging in orchards, turn grass, weeds, fallen-fruit and insects into eggs – while saving time, money, labour and fossil-fuel – on mowing, weeding, herbicides and insecticides.

Reducing costs, time, money and labour, is especially important for poor peasant farmers, to avoid debt, that could result in their losing their land.

• Language: English
• Publisher: Greg Dinneen
• Release date: Dec 17, 2017
• ISBN: 9781370654161

Greg Dinneen

SAVING ANIMALS 1000 AT A TIMEThe average Australian Animal-Eater eats more than 1000 animals in a life-time.But, it only takes 1 Australian Dairy Cow, 1 to 2 years in a Dairy,to provide you with a life-time supply of milk.Unfortunately, and partly because of Vegan Anti-Milk Propaganda,most Ex-Vegans, go back to eating more than 1000 animals.Instead of drinking milk from just 1.

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HOW TO WIN AN ARGUMENT WITH A VEGAN

By An Ex-Vegan

Vegans condemn what is.

I look at what could be and say why not?

Copyright © 2017, Greg Dinneen.

All Rights Reserved.

Written and Published by Greg Dinneen.

Distributed by Smashwords.

ISBN: 9781370654161

Disclaimer

Information in this eBook, is my personal opinion, and is not to be taken as professional advice.

Or, as a substitute for professional advice.

People seeking professional advice, should do so from appropriate, professional people.

Disclosure

I have been a Vegetarian since 1971 because I like animals.

I still am a Vegetarian.

I was a Vegan for 18 of those years.

My Opinion

In my opinion, Vegetarian Diets are more humane, healthier, more sustainable, than Vegan Diets.

Some Vegan-Propagandists are even telling people not to make life better for Farm-Animals, because if you do, fewer people will want to be Vegans.

That is, some Vegan-Propagandists, have a vested-interest in Farm-Animal abuse.

Cynically putting their ideology above the interests of animals.

Acknowledgements

I produced this eBook by using free and by donation programs.

OpenOffice, GIMP, Writer2ePub, Adobe Acrobat Reader and Adobe Digital Editions.

And, uploaded to Smashwords, by using FireFox.

VEGANISM IS BASED ON 2 FALSE ASSUMPTIONS

Which Vegans themselves disprove by their own actions.

1: You Cannot Produce Animal Products Humanely.

Disproved by Vegan Farm-Animal Sanctuaries, where:

a: Cows, produce milk;

b: Hens, lay eggs;

c: Sheep, grow wool.

So.

Why don't Vegan-Propagandists start Humane Dairy And Eggs Companies?

Why do Vegan-Propagandists tell Vegans not to make life better for Farm-Animals?

Because.

If animal-products were produced humanely then fewer people would want to be Vegans.

Veganism is more important to Vegan-Propagandists than the happiness of Farm-Animals.

That is, Vegans have an ideological vested interest in Farm-Animal abuse.

2: Everyone Can Be A Healthy Vegan – At All Stages Of Their Lives, Including Pregnancy, Lactation, Babies, Children, And Elderly.

Disproved by almost all Vegans becoming Ex-Vegans.

Often because of ill-health, or irresistible cravings, due to the deficiencies in Vegan Diets.

Even if they were were taking multiple supplements.

As well as cheating.

And, most Ex-Vegans, including myself, who became unhealthy on Vegan Diets, becoming healthier by becoming Ex-Vegans.

I was a Vegan for 18 years, apparently healthily for 17 years, before returning to drinking Cow's milk and eating Cow's milk yoghurt.

I became noticeably fitter and healthier in a few weeks.

That has now continued for 8 years.

And, even if it was true that Ex-Vegans did not do it right for themselves – how could they have done it right for their growing babies and children?

SAVING ANIMALS 1000 AT A TIME

The average Australian Animal-Eater eats more than 1000 animals in a life-time.

If you drank 4 litres of milk per week, for 80 years, then you would have drunk 16,000 litres of milk.

It only takes 1 Australian Dairy Cow, 2 to 3 years in a Dairy, to provide you with 16,000 litres of milk – a life-time supply of milk.

But, unfortunately, and partly because of Vegan Anti-Milk Propaganda, most Ex-Vegans, go back to eating more than 1000 animals.

Instead of drinking milk from just 1.

Cow's Milk-Drinkers Are Happier, Healthier, And Live Longer

A meta-analyses of 400,000 people showed that people who consume the most dairy products, have:

1: 13% lower overall death rates;

2: 8% less IHD [ischaemic heart disease];

3: 21% fewer strokes;

4: 15% less diabetes;

than people who consume the least:

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2950929/

A meta-analyses of 1,063,471 women, showed women, who consumed the most dairy, got 15% less breast cancer:

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21442197

Women who drink the most, skim or low-fat milk, are 46% less likely to get PMS:

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15956003

Could this be one reason why there are so many bad-tempered, irrational, Vegan women?

But, what explains the bad-tempered, irrational, Vegan men?

Vegans get 30% more bone fractures:

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17299475

If you cannot digest Cow's milk, you might be able to digest yoghurt, cheese, A2 Cow's milk, or Goat's milk.

For more details, see the above links, as well as Downloading my PDFs, from:

https://sites.google.com/site/vegetarianinformationcenter/

THE STEREOTYPICAL VEGAN-PROPAGANDIST

I have been a Vegetarian since 1971.

I still am a Vegetarian.

I was a Vegan for 18 of those years.

I am now an Ex-Vegan.

And, as an Ex-Vegan, I have learned how to defend myself against Vegans.

To me, the stereotypical Vegan-Propagandist is a self-righteous hypocrite, who:

1: is pro-financing every form of animal-agriculture – by promoting and eating Organic-Food – fertilised with Blood and Bone, Chicken-Dung from Factory-Farms, and sprayed with Fish-Emulsion;

2: is pro-vivisection – by promoting Rat and Mouse vivisector T Colin Campbell – and selling his book, The China Study – instead of exposing his book as an example of how vivisection misleads people;

3: cynically refuses to make life better – and tells other people not to make life better – for Farm-Animals – because if you do – fewer people will want to become, or to stay, Vegans;

4: does not care about all the animals – dispossessed and killed by ploughs and harvesters – to grow crops – when animal products can be produced without feeding grain;

5: does not care about all the animals – killed – to store crops;

6: tells people that drinking milk from 1 Cow is worse than eating more than 1000 animals;

7: tells people Vegan Diets are the healthiest diets – then victim-blames anyone who becomes unhealthy on a Vegan Diet – for not doing it right;

while emoting on about other people being cruel to animals.

Who Not To Argue With

I have not written this book in order to declare open-season on nice, polite, genuine, well-meaning, peacefully co-existing, Vegans.

But, so you, including you who are nice Vegans, can defend yourself against those obnoxious, self-righteous, bullying, abusive to both people and animals, Vegan-Propagandists, who enjoy feeling oh so smugly superior.

Who To Argue With

Vegan-Propagandists who do not care about animals or people.

Vegan-Propagandists who emote on to you about your moral obligations and the plight of Farm-Animals.

While cynically telling other Vegans, not to make life better for Farm-Animals because, if you do, fewer people will want to be Vegans.

Or, like Phil Wollen, venture-capitalist for good causes, emoting on about how cruel dairy is, while refusing to start a Humane Eggs and Dairy Company, in which there would be no cruelty.

Vegan-Propagandists who tell people that Vegan Diets are healthy for everyone – including all pregnant women and all babies – even though some babies have died because of Vegan Diets.

Human babies, like all mammals, are natural milk-drinking Vegetarians.

Vegan-Propagandists who selectively quote, lie, even fabricate evidence, to try to prove Vegan Diets are healthy for all people, at all stages of life, including pregnant women and babies.

Vegan-Propagandists, who are not Vegans themselves, but are giving Veganism a bad-name, by using Veganism as a cover, to legitimise, their own abusive, bullying behaviour.

Vegan-Propagandists, who are cheating on their sham Vegan diets, anyway.

Vegan-Propagandists, who tell people that it, Really is very easy to be a Vegan.

And, then victim-blame, anyone, if they or their babies get sick, with, You did not do it right.

Famous Vegans Who Did Not Do It Right.

Dead Vegans do not lie.

Leslie Cross – the man who defined the word Veganism – died at 65.

Frey Ellis MD – Nutritional Adviser and President of the UK Vegan Society – died at 59.

Jay Dinshah – founded the American Vegan Society – died at 66.

If Leslie Cross, Frey Ellis, Jay Dinshah, could not do it right.

If Ex-Vegan Mahatma Gandhi, could not do it right.

If the current 14th Tibetan Dalai Lama, could not do it right.

And, if milk-drinking Herbert M Shelton, founder of the Raw-Vegan Health Lifestyle, Natural Hygiene, could not do it at all.

Then who can do it right?

INTELLECTUAL HONESTY

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia, on 12th November 2015.

Intellectual honesty is an applied method of problem solving, characterized by an unbiased, honest attitude, which can be demonstrated in a number of different ways:

1: One's personal beliefs do not interfere with the pursuit of truth;

2: Relevant facts and information are not purposefully omitted even when such things may contradict one's hypothesis;

3: Facts are presented in an unbiased manner, and not twisted to give misleading impressions or to support one view over another;

4: References, or earlier work, are acknowledged where possible, and plagiarism is avoided.

FROM: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intellectual_honesty on 12th November 2015.

How Much Of The Following Applies To Vegan-Propagandists?

1: Diverting the argument to unrelated issues with a red herring (Ignoratio elenchi)

2: Insulting someone's character (argumentum ad hominem)

3: Assume the conclusion of an argument, a kind of circular reasoning, also called begging the question (petitio principi)

4: Making jumps in logic (non-sequitur)

5: Identifying a false cause and effect (post hoc ergo propter hoc)

6: Asserting that everyone agrees (bandwagoning)

7: Creating a false dilemma (either-or fallacy) in which the situation is oversimplified

8: Selectively using facts (card-stacking)

9: Making false or misleading comparisons (false equivalence and false analogy)

10: Generalizing quickly and sloppily (hasty generalization)

FROM: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallacy

Cyber-Abusers, Cyber-Bullies, And The Just Plain Bitter And Nasty

Some young people have become depressed, anxious, even suicidal, because of the abuse they have had on the internet.

Reviews for How To Win An Argument With A Vegan By An Ex-Vegan

[natasha P. · Rating: 1 out of 5 stars]

Ridiculous . He never was vegan. Pass on this book. Sad .

[Joanna I · Rating: 1 out of 5 stars]

I started reading this with an open mind but his points completely lacked logic or any insights worth attention. Save your time and avoid this at all costs.

[angylina kiyomorét g. zayn · Rating: 1 out of 5 stars]

Hey dude, you were never a VEGAN. Would you please stop calling yourself an ex-vegan?
a VEGAN would never go back to supporting a cruel industry that enslaved innocent beings and will never go back to supporting the holocaust.
This entire book is an oxymoron.

Please go and read the book: Vegan Propaganda by Ed Winters.

PLEASE STOP CALLING YOURSELF AN EX-VEGAN! Thanks!